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Re: oilheads-digest V1 #49
- Subject: Re: oilheads-digest V1 #49
- From: rennsport@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:36:52 -0500
On Friday, Jan 16, 2004, at 12:54 US/Eastern, Bruno Valeri wrote:
>
> Which bikes are you referring to?
> FWIW, I think the R1150R is a real sleeper.
Yes, it went to sleep just after 1994.
> The RT is still a looker.
Yes, it still looks the same.
> The GS just got better.
For a GS bike it is a good.
>
>> 100 honest RWHP
>
> No problem for a multi cylinder motor, but maybe a tall order for
> the current Boxer.
Are you saying the current boxer engine is at the "end of the road"?
>
>> At least 75 fewer pounds.
>
> Lighter would be nice. I'd certainly appreciate it. But some seem
> to appreciate the stability offered by the extra heft.
So we are rationalizing this "extra heft" by saying it adds to the
stability of the bikes? Some how I do not think that is the reason the
bike's weight.
>
> FWIW2, I think the new R1200 GS is exciting.
>
>> Sadly, what I have found is most of what BMW offers (excluding
> the
>> "mystique") at lower purchase and operating costs, with equal
> or
>> greater reliability.
>
> I don't see reliability to be a prime reason to buy BMW.
Shh... There are a good number of BMW owners that would disagree with
you.
>
> But there are other reasons. If you appreciate fit and finish and
> quality of materials used, for example.
Quality materials? Surely you jest! Playdough rims, transmissions that
die befor the warranty is out...
> If you appreciate
> innovative engineering.
Well what besides telelever has this innovative engineering got us?
> If you value riding something a little
> more unique.
This is why I own and ride BMW, however, this is not a good reason to
go and buy a current R1150RS. It is just more of the same.
>
> The Boxer sure is not cutting edge. They've masssaged it about as
> much as is possible. In a very real sense, BMW is prisoner of
> legacy systems. It cannot start with a clean slate (for example
> like Honda can). It has legacy to protect.
Why not? They killed the Airhead (finally).
> This has both benefits and liabilities.
All I see are liabilities.
>
> As a consumer, what'd I'd appreciate is more market
> responsiveness and less arrogance. If there is a problem, admit
> it. Then fix it. Don't deny it.
>
>
Well it seems their (BMW) plan is to deny then fix it later. The soft
rims are a good example.
Robert
95 R11RS
88 KRS Special
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