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RE: oilheads-digest V4 #118

Tom, so now you need a wrench to add oil? I'm not sure I see the benefit to
that. I guess I'd fix the stock setup that works fine when properly installed.

Cheers,

Bob Covey
Thousand Oaks CA
'96 R1100RT
'05 F650


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oilheads-digest       Thursday, October 18 2007       Volume 04 : Number 118



In this issue:

    Oil Filler
    Re: Oil Filler
    Re: Oil Filler

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:33:02 -0500
From: "Tom Brown" <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Oil Filler

Greg:

Not sure which bike you have, but, since you bought a Twin, Max, I'm
guessing it's an Oilhead and not a hex-head.

I had this problem.  I think everyone does at some time.   I didn't have
much luck with cleaning and re-inserting.   Maybe I didn't have enough
faith.   Anyway, I bought a fancy aluminum screw-down unit.   It has nice
Viton gaskets and both the plug and the collar are really well made.  It
used the same allen wrench size as the oil plug.  Once installed, I never
had another leak.

A word of caution.  You MUST remove the head cover to install the collar.
The collar comes with two tiny set-screws to hold it securely in.  A friend
of mine tried installing without removing the cover and dropped one of the
set screws down into the engine.   He missed a very good trip to Deal's Gap
because of it and ended up paying someone to disassemble the engine to find
the blasted thing.  It got lodged in the timing chain.   Might have caused
real damage if he'd started the engine up.

Aren't we just full of fun stories?

- -TB



Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gregory Appling <rugby14uwh@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Oil leak around filler cap

So in my standard hamfisted approach to working on my bike, while doing an
oil change I poped out the oil filler cap and the piece that it goes into. I
poped it back in but now I've got a leak going.

  Is there a way to fix this or do I need to purchase a part to make the oil
leak go away.

  And more importantly can I justify buying a new tool to fix this problem?

  Hey Marc, I finally got around to buying a TwinMax

  gregory


Gregory Appling
385 Waverly St
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
415-637-0784

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Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:14:19 -0400
From: Bob Hadden <kbhadden@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Oil leak around filler cap

Greg,  Simply remove the filler.  Then remove the plastic piece that stays
in the valve cover.  Clean all parts and remove the two 0-rings
for cleaning also.  Assemble all clean and you should be leak free.
If not, new 0-rings could be in order, but I think most people who replace
these o-rings really didn't need to.  I went 40k miles with no leak, and the
other guys I saw with leaks were easily fixed with a good cleaning.

Bob Hadden

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:55:14 -0500
From: Mark Rivera <marr@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Oil Filler

 > A word of caution.  You MUST remove the head cover to install the collar.
 > The collar comes with two tiny set-screws to hold it securely in.

I think this was the first thing I changed on my moto because I'd heard
about problems with the stock version. I definitely second the
recommendation.

Fwiw, when I inserted the collar on mine it required alot of force. I
braced the inside of the cover with a piece of scrap 2x4 cut to size,
and used a drill press (w/o bit :) to push the collar in.


Mark

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gregory Appling <rugby14uwh@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Oil Filler

So I guess it's time to change to the fancy screw-down unit...... does anyone
happen to know the name of it:)  Or is it something I can pick up at the local
dealer?

  gregory

Tom Brown <tbrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Greg:

Not sure which bike you have, but, since you bought a Twin, Max, I'm
guessing it's an Oilhead and not a hex-head.

I had this problem. I think everyone does at some time. I didn't have
much luck with cleaning and re-inserting. Maybe I didn't have enough
faith. Anyway, I bought a fancy aluminum screw-down unit. It has nice
Viton gaskets and both the plug and the collar are really well made. It
used the same allen wrench size as the oil plug. Once installed, I never
had another leak.

A word of caution. You MUST remove the head cover to install the collar.
The collar comes with two tiny set-screws to hold it securely in. A friend
of mine tried installing without removing the cover and dropped one of the
set screws down into the engine. He missed a very good trip to Deal's Gap
because of it and ended up paying someone to disassemble the engine to find
the blasted thing. It got lodged in the timing chain. Might have caused
real damage if he'd started the engine up.

Aren't we just full of fun stories?

- -TB



Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gregory Appling
Subject: Oil leak around filler cap

So in my standard hamfisted approach to working on my bike, while doing an
oil change I poped out the oil filler cap and the piece that it goes into. I
poped it back in but now I've got a leak going.

Is there a way to fix this or do I need to purchase a part to make the oil
leak go away.

And more importantly can I justify buying a new tool to fix this problem?

Hey Marc, I finally got around to buying a TwinMax

gregory


Gregory Appling
385 Waverly St
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
415-637-0784

- - ---------------------------------
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:14:19 -0400
From: Bob Hadden
Subject: Re: Oil leak around filler cap

Greg, Simply remove the filler. Then remove the plastic piece that stays
in the valve cover. Clean all parts and remove the two 0-rings
for cleaning also. Assemble all clean and you should be leak free.
If not, new 0-rings could be in order, but I think most people who replace
these o-rings really didn't need to. I went 40k miles with no leak, and the
other guys I saw with leaks were easily fixed with a good cleaning.

Bob Hadden



Gregory Appling
385 Waverly St
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
415-637-0784
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