RE: How to make your EVO (powered) brakes less grabby (was "Re: ABS:)

["Robert Brown" <sk.brown@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The point I was trying to make is that maybe you are an exception - human
nature will have most people braking the same way ALL the time.  Whatever
technique you use commuting, traveling, etc is what you will use in the
"panic" situation.  I teach beginners use both brakes and all four fingers
every time and then when it is needed they will have maximum braking.  This
is another reason I like ABS - I have had a few close calls plus one where I
"grabbed" the front, low speed - low side and still managed to break my arm
and dislocate my shoulder.  This was not on an ABS bike.

Skipper
ABQ NM

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-oilheads@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-oilheads@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Robert Silas
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:37 PM
To: oilheads@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: How to make your EVO (powered) brakes less grabby (was "Re:
ABS:)

You are right with the four-finger braking in case of panic braking, but we
did not talk that. I had a few close calls and yes, I used four fingers to
brake and the foot brake too.
R.S.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Brown 
  To: oilheads@xxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:20 PM
  Subject: RE: How to make your EVO (powered) brakes less grabby (was "Re:
ABS:)


  I guess two-finger braking is okay if you are racing!  Fore-finger makes a
  great stop to limit travel.  I have no problem with my 1150GS and with the
  loaner RT's w/ the new power assisted.  Proper braking takes practice and
if
  you have more than one bike (I also have two Airheads) it is best to use
the
  same technique on all.  I know no one on this list has ever "panic" braked
  but one finger underneath an R80 leaver is not fun.

  Skipper
  ABQ NM

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-oilheads@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-oilheads@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
  Of Robert Silas
  Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:53 PM
  To: oilheads@xxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: How to make your EVO (powered) brakes less grabby (was "Re:
  ABS:)

  Steve,
  We supposed to use two fingers on the brake lever anyway, as friends who
  used to race are telling me. I have small hands so it is very difficult
for
  me to do so.
  I always keep the fore-finger and the thumb around the throttle and three
  fingers on the brake. In critical cases, like slippery surface, I brake
with
  one finger only.
  My old RS with ABS gives me no trouble, it does not have power assisted
  brakes (too high-tech???)
  Bob Silas 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steve Makohin 
    To: oilheads@xxxxxxxxx ; Tandy Bozeman 
    Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:06 PM
    Subject: How to make your EVO (powered) brakes less grabby (was "Re:
ABS:)


    Hello Tandy and list,

    From: "Tandy Bozeman" <tkb@xxxxxxxxxxx>

    [Steve Makohin wrote:]
    >> 
    >> . . . I have learned a technique that minimizes and even 
    >> eliminates that effect (details in a previous email).
    >> 
    > Details again, please.

    from "Re: ABS", Nov 12/05 12:32 PM (GMT -5)...

     o I have learned to adapt to the servo brakes by "choking up" on
       the hand brake lever. That is, I use only two fingers to apply the
       brake lever, and I position them as closely to the lever's "hinge"
       as possible. This reduced the amount of leverage I can use, and
       therefore, applies less brake force per finger force applied. This
       technique has allowed me to brake pretty smoothly.

    -Steve Makohin
     '01 R1100S/ABS
     Oakville, Ontario, Canada

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